Rev. Sara Joleno Wolcott and Ramasubramanian have been working together since 2014 when they first met in Chennai during the former's work and travels in India. Rev. Sara started the Sequoia Samanvaya in the US in 2018 and since then they have jointly toured and lectures and facilitated change processes together in Germany, USA, Canada and Ecuador. In January 2021, Sequoia Samanvaya brought out its first online journal the Grove and as part of it, the following conversational essay was jointly published by both of them.