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One of the privileges of Dharampalji's association is the large amount of history, polity and society one can get to know just through talking with him. The few people who have had the advantage of his association over the years would vouch for his great story telling abilities with a characteristic punch line! We have tried to capture some of these stories, anecdotes and insights of Dharampalji in the last couple of years. With pleasure we share some of them through this page.

Documentation in India - "We in India do not have the habit of documenting good work, this probably comes out of the fact that humility is taught of a great virtue and any man would rather not document about himself. It is necessary to document the hundred odd good attempts being made across the country"

The group (community) decision structure in India as against individualistic structure that was imposed. - One of the things done by the Britishers' was to take over the management of the natural resources till then collectively managed by the entire village and tell them that the government will hereafter maintain it for them.

This has happened in the case of the traditional water ways and the forests and the temples,etc. In fact one of the justification for the take over of the temple management by the government - by the Britishers- is that they are not looting the temples as the Moghuls did, what was unsaid is the fact that they let them to decay, by removing the support structure from the community.

The decision making style used to be group decision and every thing was discussed in public to arrive at a decision. Most of the decision was arrived as consensus, if it was not possible to arrive at a decision, the norm was to postpone the decision making for another day. This was understood and exploited by the Britishers too, who pushed often for quick decisions while negotiating with the Indians thereby pushing for decision to their advantage.
[Unlike the Japanese who have institutionalised this, the Indians have not institutionalised this habit of postponing the decision making and thinking over it]

JRD Tata and Nehru: Since the freedom struggle days Nehru and Tata knew each other and had regular meetings. But, Tata felt that after the Independence there was a change in Nehru, he would not ask for any opinion or comment on any problem. Tata felt that this was a change for the bad as he felt that there should have been a discussion between Nehru and the Industrialists like himself. Dharampalji's comments: "If you ask for an opinion, then you will have to listen see…"

Diversity as against factionism - We in India are a socially diverse people and many of these diverse cultures are quiet assertive and perhaps certain amount of pride in the uniqueness of the individual culture…but, this does not mean that we work in factions, it is the sense of defeated-ness that has been brought about by the 200 years of imperialistic rule that has resulted in us developing this sense of factionism. Gandhi was successful because he could appeal to the something that was common (perhaps) among all the diverse cultures that are part of this country…he gave a purpose that was far above the factionalism and there was also a sense of achievement (victory) which he could infuse in the way things were executed…this gave the diverse cultures too a purpose towards which they could converge and work together. This is perhaps the real success of Gandhi.

The great levellers of the society - holi festival, Jagannathapuri,etc. - The holi festival is perhaps a great leveller in the society…as you are not supposed to say no to any one applying colours even on the roads, regardless of who the person is you are to accept the greetings and reciprocate…this is similar to the Jagannatha puri temple, where prasad is served to everyone who walks in and while you are having your prasad if someone passing by puts his had in your prasad to take some, you are not supposed to stop the person from doing so…this is also a great social leveller. There have been quiet a few such levellers in the society which seem to bring together all sections of the society.

On earlier Indian policing and militia. - Earlier Indian militia was local and supported by the local community, the role of the militia was to protect the local population from any invading army. Similarly the policing was also supported by the local community. The police were supposed to find out and recover any theft in the local community within a specified time. If they fail to do so, then they are bound to return the value of the item to the victim of the theft from their own wealth. This faith on the individuals to give the correct value and the police in being completely dedicated to the community was so unbelievable to the English when they first encountered this(sometime in the 1750s), that one of them wrote to his friend in London saying that if such a system was followed in London, the police will be flooded by too many theft cases (this in reference to the dependability of people of the then London!!!).

Some comments on the West - The western attitude of destroying a system if it is not in accordance with the times (like the education system in India when McLay studied it or the religion of India according to Wilberforce) in contrast to the Indian attitude of managing things if they have survived for some / long time, letting it down to die in a loooong painful manner.

"The tendency of the western nations is that they will try to eliminate those that do not live up to the standard which they define as civilisation, this is the rule and it is considered correct. Darwin theory comes much later, the main thing is that this is the way in which the west thinks. Survival of the fittest, and others have to either be fit or let to wither away - if not helped in the process. They will not be bothered if few lakh rural Indians die of natural calamity. This is not a problem for them, those people are any way not fit to live, so let them die will be the attitude.